To say the timing of Jordan De Goey’s newest controversy was ill-timed can be an understatement.
It wasn’t way back a number of experiences acknowledged the 26-year previous was closing in on a multi-year extension with Collingwood after spending this season successful again the belief of the membership following his New York arrest over the summer time.
How shortly issues modified.
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There was a sense of ‘right here we go once more’ when imaginative and prescient first emerged on Friday of De Goey partying in Bali and making crude sexual gestures.
And with it Collingwood pulled its four-year $3.2 million provide — a two-year cope with a set off for one more two years on $800,000 per season — to the gun midfielder/ahead.
So the place do issues now stand with De Goey forward of free company whereas the occasions of the weekend have arguably forged a good larger highlight over his title? Foxfooty.com.au outlines the De Goey contract state of play beneath.
WHAT’S THE LATEST?
The Magpies on Tuesday confirmed De Goey, who revealed he was recognized with ADHD final yr, had been handed a suspended $25,000 tremendous till the top of the season pending good behaviour, however no such ban was given.
The choice to basically not sanction De Goey in any respect ought to he not slip up by the top of the AFL marketing campaign has copped loads of criticism.
Nevertheless AFL 360 co-host Gerard Whateley argued that the Pies parking contract talks and withdrawing their earlier provides had been punishments in themselves the place De Goey stands to lose $1.8 million in whole from the membership, suggesting it’ll solely provide him a lowered two-year deal.
It now signifies that, assuming he performs towards GWS on Sunday, De Goey has 9 common season video games left to show his price, each to Collingwood and different potential suitors.
After all, he reportedly has no such deal anymore on the desk from the Pies, however that doesn’t imply issues may change. However can Collingwood genuinely belief De Goey sufficient at hand him a profitable deal when the membership is attempting to wash up its picture from the Do Higher report?
Talking on Channel 9 earlier this week, veteran journalist Caroline Wilson forged critical doubt over his future on the Magpies.
“I feel there’s an excellent probability (he gained’t be at Collingwood subsequent yr),” she mentioned.
Elsewhere, former AFL stars Leigh Montagna and Jordan Lewis consider De Goey’s “bargaining energy is getting much less and fewer” each at Collingwood and rival golf equipment after his actions in Bali.
“If there was already some issues — whether or not it’s at board degree or membership degree discussing will we or don’t we, what are the dangers versus rewards — this simply provides one other layer to it. It’d put a couple of golf equipment off,” Montagna mentioned on Fox Footy’s First Crack.
“We all know he’s a matchwinner, we all know he’s acquired high-level expertise, he’s a gun participant within the competitors, I do assume that, however now possibly some golf equipment may assume the danger shouldn’t be definitely worth the reward.”
Lewis highlighted how the AFL has turn out to be extra system-based quite than people dominating, saying, “there’s so many examples to say that one participant can’t win you a premiership or change the way in which you go about it, however it may actually affect the group.”
De Goey’s former coach Nathan Buckley says the Collingwood star ought to settle for no matter provide the Magpies put in entrance of him and that he ought to repay the membership’s religion for sticking by him, even when it means forsaking extra cash.
“Collingwood mustn’t pay high greenback for Jordan De Goey,” Buckley advised SEN’s Whateley.
“I feel they need to provide him what they’re ready to pay him and that he ought to simply settle for that and say, ‘Thanks to your help, to your steerage and understanding as I attempt to navigate my life to go from being a younger man who has made some blues to being a greater contributor and higher individual’.
“I nonetheless assume that if the membership chooses to proceed with him, I feel that ought to be their parameters that they proceed with him on. I feel Jordy ought to be fairly grateful if that happens.
“He’s nonetheless a younger man however he’s acquired to make higher selections and he’s acquired to resolve to place folks round him which are going to assist him make higher selections.”
WHICH RIVAL CLUBS COULD WANT HIM?
There’s no denying that De Goey comes with a giant ‘purchaser beware’ tag — he did even previous to his newest indiscretion.
After all, a key hurdle for any suitor — and one which’s been broadly mentioned — is the way it can justify bringing in De Goey as one among its highest paid gamers. How can a board tick that off? What would the gamers incomes much less at that membership assume?
De Goey’s newest blunder has prompted calls that he’s “unrecruitable” to rivals, and whereas it might be argued that AFL groups have a capability to remodel ‘dangerous boys’ — simply take a look at Tyson Stengle — there’s additionally been instances the place golf equipment have taken punts on controversial figures that didn’t work out.
The important thing distinction is right here that De Goey most likely gained’t come at a discount basement value, he’ll value some. It might probably’t be denied although that each one 17 different golf equipment would strictly from a expertise perspective welcome De Goey would open arms.
The membership that has been linked to De Goey is St Kilda, who’s beforehand had curiosity in him when he’s been out of contract.
The Herald Solar’s Jon Ralph reported the Saints had been “main the chasing pack of golf equipment” for De Goey, however would want to supply a long-term deal price as much as 5 years which will have to hit over $800,000 yearly and doubtlessly in the direction of $1 million.
It’s close to sure at this stage that De Goey may get a considerably higher deal to depart the Pies.
“If you happen to take a look at the essential arithmetic, somebody providing him $4 or $5 million, and Collingwood at most providing him a assured $1.6 million,” Ralph advised Fox Footy’s On the Sofa.
St Kilda nice Nick Riewoldt has mentioned he’d help his former membership making a transfer for De Goey on a deal so long as 5 years, however with caveats and provided that it was assured he was prepared to alter.
“It’s one thing you may entertain as a soccer membership as a result of let’s not overlook, we’re speaking a couple of critical on-field expertise,” he mentioned.
“For a membership like St Kilda, which has gained one premiership, he’s a distinction maker. However that is all when you’ve got a degree of confidence a degree of contrition has been proven.”
One other membership that has been touted as a suitor for De Goey’s providers is Essendon.
The Bombers reportedly have ample cap area and the capability to land a giant fish from a rival membership, with AFL 360 co-host Mark Robinson final month saying the Bombers had been able to launch a bid.
De Goey — even at his price ticket — will surely make quite a lot of sense for the Bombers, whereas the considered he and Jake Stringer enjoying in the identical facet is tantalising.
His aptitude on the midfield may present some extent of distinction in Essendon’s midfield that it doesn’t actually have with the likes of Darcy Parish, Zach Merrett and Dylan Shiel.
“They’ve acquired some cash. They might choose up a top-three, top-four draft choose and so they may choose up a free agent. Does that fulfill the tens of millions of Essendon followers? Who is aware of?” Robinson mentioned on AFL 360.
After all, who may overlook North Melbourne’s godfather provide to De Goey again in 2018 price $5 million over 5 years? The struggling Roos, having missed out on a number of off-contract stars through the years, would certainly be open to getting their fingers on expertise within the open market.
Nevertheless a good bit has modified since North’s aggressive bid 5 years in the past. For one, De Goey was 21 on the time and a Luke Jackson-type commodity the place the sky was the ceiling and he had the potential to be the primary participant within the sport.
And the Roos have since undergone important change together with to their soccer division and dedicated to a full-scale rebuild. So does a participant who’ll be 27 by the beginning of subsequent season and comes with baggage and threat make sense for North in a interval the place its endeavouring to set requirements? Unlikely.
One other workforce who’s thought to have cap area is Hawthorn, however discover itself in an analogous place to the rebuilding Roos.
Heck, simply final yr the Hawks had been procuring senior gamers to rival golf equipment to carry extra draft picks by way of the door. It’s clear that the membership’s priorities are redeveloping its record and getting youthful underneath Sam Mitchell in a brand new period at Waverley, thus making De Goey a questionable goal.
Though the Hawks’ midfield — very similar to Essendon’s — could be very one paced and will use an X-factor like De Goe who can burst away from stoppages.
Then there’s the potential for a lower-profile membership resembling Port Adelaide to supply De Goey the chance to get away from the intense lights of Melbourne the place he’d cop much less scrutiny.
Whereas hassle appears to comply with De Goey wherever he goes, shifting away from the limelight could also be one thing that appeals to him, very similar to with Lance Franklin and even Joe Daniher.
HOW MUCH COULD HE COMMAND?
If one had been to discard De Goey‘s off-field baggage — a giant if — the on-field credentials of the 26-year-old are spectacular.
Solely two gamers within the competitors this season common not less than 20 disposals, 400 metres gained and one aim: Jordan De Goey and Marcus Bontempelli.
It‘s uncommon firm to maintain and one which underlines De Goey’s credentials as a midfielder/ahead.
Judged as a midfield / ahead, his score factors are 14.7 — the 2 above him are Bontempelli and Tom Liberatore.
He ranks elite in clearances, whereas he‘s above common in disposals, contested possessions, metres gained and targets.
As a pure midfielder, these disposal and clearance numbers come again right down to common, however at most golf equipment if not all he would doubtless play the midfield / ahead position given it‘s the place he seems to have essentially the most affect.
He‘s additionally thrived in that position and, on numbers not less than, improved upon it this season in comparison with final, when the transfer was first made.
His participant score factors have jumped from 9.1 to 14.7, his common metres gained have jumped by practically 100 and he averages practically two extra clearances per sport.
Nobody is suggesting De Goey may command as a lot as Bontempelli, however his means as a centre-bounce participant who can cost ahead is appreciable.
Any contract that goes past three years, nevertheless, can be irresponsible.
That’s not less than the stance of former Hawthorn star Ben Dixon.
“You wouldn‘t be giving him any greater than three years, that’s ludicrous,” Dixon advised foxfooty.com.au.
“That’s going to take you to 30 roughly after which it’s a reset. It’d be completely ludicrous to go greater than three.”
De Goey, Dixon says, has hit his most when it comes to enjoying potential.
“I feel he‘s hit his ceiling. I don’t assume he’s going to get any higher,” he mentioned.
“I feel what his worth is true now’s across the mark. It’s onerous to place a determine on it however across the $700,000 is the precise value. Something above that’s extreme.”
HOW DOES HE FIT INTO THE PIES?
De Goey provides a lot to Collingwood on the sphere — the aforementioned stats point out as a lot.
Is he a must-keep, nevertheless? Not based on Dixon.
“I don’t assume there‘s any participant within the league you may’t cowl,” he mentioned.
“If you happen to lose a Dustin Martin proper now for no matter cause … I don’t assume Richmond is at some extent now the place they’re so closely reliant on Dustin Martin.
“We’re at some extent now the place you don’t depend on one, two, three or 4 gamers, as a result of your system is backed up so properly.”
From an on-field standpoint although, De Goey is one among 4 Collingwood gamers to common not less than 4 clearances a sport; the opposite three are Brodie Grundy, Taylor Adams and Jack Crisp.
All three of these names are linked to the membership for not less than one other yr, with Crisp more likely to prolong his deal past 2023, Adams tied in till 2024 and Grundy on a mammoth seven-year deal till 2027.
Patrick Lipinski has been a terrific pick-up and Nick Daicos will proceed to develop, so there are different choices, though admittedly none are capable of execute the midfielder/ahead position in addition to De Goey has confirmed himself capable of within the final two years.
It’s additionally price noting that De Goey’s future at Collingwood has implications on its curiosity in Lions free agent Dan McStay to some extent.
If the Magpies determined towards matching a free company provide from De Goey and parting methods with him, the compensation they might obtain can be diluted by the hypothetical arrival of McStay.
Maybe a extra fascinating query is whether or not De Goey matches in from a whole-of-club perspective.
It is a membership that has bought its 2022 season on a ‘clear slate’ method, headed by first-year coach Craig McRae, with an overhaul of the board and soccer division.
The off-field controversy De Goey seems to have a knack for locating shouldn’t be consistent with the type of membership Collingwood is attempting to reshape itself as.
A stronger help community for De Goey is one suggestion that has been put ahead by many, however maybe none as sturdy as Dixon.
De Goey’s preliminary assertion about being persecuted by the media in a biased and unjust method was one he has since backflipped from after session with Collingwood, however one which was telling in what it unnoticed as a lot as what was in it.
The media, Dixon says, shouldn’t be De Goey’s key supply of concern.
“It’s an issue as a result of he’s making it an issue and his atmosphere is making it an issue. He’s acquired a option to make: Do you need to maintain hanging round your mates who regularly tip you in?” he mentioned.
“In case you are so socially inept that you just can’t comprehend that your mates are the issue as a result of they’re broadcasting your behaviour, then you definately’ve acquired a unsuitable circle of mates otherwise you haven’t acquired the heart to face as much as your mates and say ‘put your cellphone away.’”’
De Goey is way from the one participant to exit partying or consuming throughout their mid-season break — he isn’t even the one one who went to Bali, with each Darcy Moore and Jamie Elliott additionally there on a separate journey.
A key challenge of De Goey’s, Dixon mentioned, is who he does mentioned partying or consuming with.
“I can assure you seven out of 10 AFL gamers are doing what he’s doing (partying onerous), week in week out, it’s a truth. He’s not one out of the field, however his mates are exposing him,” he mentioned.
“His (preliminary) assertion that he put out … Jordan, you have to be placing an announcement out about your mates, who’re constantly throwing you underneath the bus. The media shouldn’t be throwing you underneath the bus, you’ve acquired this completely unsuitable.
“Your so-called mates are those who’ve thrown you underneath a bus after which reversed over you. There’s a tipping level while you’re going to get up one morning and go, ‘You’re truly not my actual mates’ or ‘These guys need the eye, they need the viewers, they need the stardom’. Get up.”
Very like Collingwood itself has modified a lot of its help community, De Goey merely should endure an analogous endeavour if he’s to keep away from the pitfalls he continues to court docket.
We’ve been on this place earlier than the place De Goey has had the chance to depart Collingwood for a much bigger payday. Though it’s now undoubtedly a extra difficult state of affairs.
The Magpies had their probability to make a giant assertion this week and hand harsher penalties to say, ‘we’re not accepting this sort of stuff anymore’ and sign their stance on the out-of-contract star.
However Collingwood CEO Mark Anderson, though admitting contract talks had been on maintain till season’s finish, even mentioned De Goey had made progress from a behaviour standpoint in one thing of a defence of him whereas nonetheless condemning his behaviour.
Some have even steered the entire Bali debacle might be a sneaky win for the Pies in that it lowers his total price ticket.
It could be honest to say that with the place the membership was positioned six months in the past coming off its Seventeenth-place end, it might’ve been extra determined to retain a participant of De Goey’s ilk. Nevertheless as proficient as he stays, that’s now a way more optimistic outlook at Collingwood, and irrespective of its state of affairs, the membership certainly can’t maintain tolerating these slip ups.
There’s clearly a chance greater than ever earlier than for a rival to desk a big-money provide to lure him away from the AIA Centre — and the disparity between that provide and what the Pies will make has the potential to be the largest but.
What it now finally comes right down to is the place De Goey’s priorities lie — the very factor that has been so frequently questioned over the previous week — given the Bali incident clearly didn’t warrant Collingwood desirous to flat out half methods with him — it simply provides one other layer of doubt to an already troublesome determine.
Being a free agent the ball is essentially in his court docket. And so it’s one thing that he and his supervisor (and brother in regulation) Ryan Obscure might want to talk about once more as soon as the mud settles after the Bali incident given his state of affairs has once more modified.
Is it maybe in everybody’s finest pursuits for De Goey to get a contemporary begin at one other membership? For De Goey and the Magpies to shake fingers and say, ‘thanks for every thing.’
Collingwood is all De Goey has ever recognized for his eight AFL seasons within the league, and he’s lengthy mentioned he desires to stay on the membership. Come the top of the season this complete fiasco may properly be a distant reminiscence if the on-field outcomes stay rosy on the membership.
You additionally get the impression he isn’t the sort who would need to stroll into one other membership on a big-money deal given the strain he already faces.
It signifies that the more than likely situation nonetheless at this stage, until there’s one other controversy or De Goey decides in any other case, is for him to remain on the membership that’s been as loyal to him as he’s been to it for eight years.
But when he wasn’t already, De Goey is now strolling on a tightrope.